|
Post by sexybzzrak on Aug 16, 2024 23:57:32 GMT -5
Add my cock to you're mom's asshole...
|
|
|
Post by Tangra on Aug 18, 2024 12:32:35 GMT -5
Define your values, make them known as rules of the board, stick to them. The board is new so this is a big advantage - ie you don't split your community because everyone starts out knowing the rules of the game. You don't even need to make them absolutely explicit but you should have the balls to ban people who don't follow them. I would even go so far as to ban politics completely. Even though I have had some very eye opening conversations.. see Ketmar's nonsense on doomerboards about wanting to kill people who don't follow his worldview were his utopia put in place.. it has made me never really want to have these conversations with people in a fandom I go to for fun and bullshittery. That would mean you would have to confront and ban people who cannot accept their views as being political (although looking at every major fandom now-a-days I don't even see that as a bad thing). Heh I wonder if the board would be taken down if you did ban someone because they cannot accept that fact.. heh we live in clown world so who knows. Meh been drinking after some late nights working so not sure if this is even being talked about.. just looked at the latest lengthy post and this is what my brain synapse told me to type.
Edit: Oh and trying to build a community around mapping or something would probably be a good idea. It is the reason doomerboards is as successful as it is after all. As long as wads aren't posted on doomworld or zdoom forums I wouldn't mind making a map (this is the only reason I never finished a map for those projects).
Honestly, you should be running Doomer Boards. Your post contains most, if not everything 40oz fails at, or doesn't have the balls to do. How the hell is a forum, that's supposed to be an alternative to Doomworld, ended up being "moderated" by the biggest snowflake cuck? That i'll never understand, but i have memories of him not always being like that... Am i remembering wrong? He won't ban the people who truly damage the forum, like the guy who is on his fifth alt account right now and shitting all over the place for the better part of a month. But of course not, instead he'll suspend the ones who criticize him for the bitch admin that he is, or the ones who criticize Joe-Ilya for ruining the latest DBP with one of the worst maps this series has ever seen, all while being in denial about it despite half the forum explaining to him in detail why his map is a dumpster fire. Then 40oz scratches his head, wonders and cries, why are people so rude to his buddy Joe, when that fucking guy never admits his mistakes, has a huge ego, and he's being a pain in the ass to collaborate with since... forever. Allowing his map on the DBP on the Map01 slot is a massive insult to all the other people who worked hard, putting in the hours to make Marble Hill as polished and fun as it can be. But enough about that prick. The idea of no politics, no personal drama, no inner conflicts, with a main focus on mapping and gaming is what i always believed a Doom forum should be. Doomworld is not that, and so is Doomer Boards. Can Time of Doom be that forum? Only if TimeOfDeath takes it serious, because from what i'm seeing so far, he doesn't really care to be the alternative that many mappers and players are seeking. So far here there's more shitposting than there are Doom discussions, and as long as that idiot XeepEep or others with a similar type of behavior are allowed to spam their kindergarten level crap, that user count is not going anywhere... at best it will draw the same type of brain-damaged trolls, which will only make things more unbearable. Creating a community driven by map creation is the best way to go. An alternative series of projects, like the DBPs, that will get shared around other sites and servers, will promote the forum and bring more people. That can only happen if they are well-made and serious in tone, shitposts and troll wads won't contribute to anything. Of course, patience and consistency is also a key to this. @timeofdeath , i'm interested to see what you think about these points and if you have any serious intentions about this forum.
|
|
|
Post by killer5 on Aug 18, 2024 13:15:21 GMT -5
Tbh I would never want to run a forum. I would rather run a discord but do what I said in my post because I have made that mistake in the past - allowing people to talk politics. If you reference my last posts on groomworld you will notice me saying that I caused someone to take a break from a discord I was in. It was due to politics that this happened - people cannot remain in a discord with people who they know have different political views anymore. Or if they do remain there it is never the same. For me I have seen enough from the left because it has affected my life significantly and has cost me a LOT of money to avoid/escape. Not even sure I can deal with radicals on the left in the same discord - but if I don't know someone's politics then that would be fine (and for the best). This discord would be gatekept though, and heavily. I absolutely take that meme of 'the people being cast out, making their own place, and then having to deal with the people that caused them to leave in the first place wanting in' to heart. I really wouldn't mind doing that again though. We just talk about gaming, mapping, testing, midis, etc.. and preferably no drama about Doom unless something nuclear happens like this Bethesda thing which caused a lot of people to be banned for idiotic reasons like having an opinion and getting emotional about something that they really enjoy. Especially constantly ragging on people in the community (this is something that I have been guilty of in the past too tbh). All that does is cause negative emotion for everyone and makes life even more miserable than it already is on a day-to-day basis. Not even sure who I would invite tbh. I am comfy here for now.
Edit: Meh I could think of some people but I have no idea what their opinions are of me. One person on doomerboards already brought this up to me but meh a discord with a small group of people in it wouldn't have much content most likely (unless we already had fun with each other else where). Probably for the best.
|
|
|
Post by gehenna on Aug 18, 2024 13:47:50 GMT -5
So far here there's more shitposting than there are Doom discussions only so much you can talk about a 30yo game at this point, my only real interest is in playing maps and the like, rarely do i get any meaningful itch to discuss them. if off topic being more popular than doom is too much to bear then make the related sections disappear. not like we would go anywhere, just post less bullshit, but then who even benefits? like where are all the hot catgirls wanting to map and discuss doom all day, to quote our Dear Leader out of context? truly i see no point, unless... no politics, no personal drama, no inner conflicts as long as that idiot XeepEep or others with a similar type of behavior are allowed to spam their kindergarten level crap yeah, you kiwifarmers have it all wrong with regards to teh shitposting, though i'm probably on your shitlist. "shitposters" won't (mostly) drive away "contributors" nor is there any clear line between the two, so far the only map posted in here was made by the brazilian king of shitposting for instance (you might shit on it since it's gimmicky or whatever, but i liked it). but even if you're just here to chill, my idea of a decent forum is having the bare minimum amount of moderation, and therefore bare minimum preferential treatment based on past record. it is clear we're disagreeing on fundamental issues tho. to put it plainly, to my knowledge the only thing xeep & the like ever did was drive away retarded faggots and their ego driven purity crusades... unfortunately xeep couldn't gatekeep the admin as well, hence the current situation
|
|
|
Post by Tangra on Aug 18, 2024 14:52:57 GMT -5
killer5 , i've been trying to adapt to discord for years, but honestly, it's not for me. Maybe my mistake was that i joined a few of the "bigger ones" at the beginning, like Entryway, and that Clippy one, forgot what it's called. Anyway, these servers are a mess with dozens of subchannels and tons of spam to shovel through. If i'm afk for a day or two, and then open discord, i can't keep up with what's been said and done. I have no idea how people run community projects in these places, but i doubt it's an easy task. A well maintained forum is so much better for discussions, map sharing and project development. Even if you miss a few days, you can always return to a thread and add something to it. While on discord, you are hit with a wall of disorganized spam, where yesterday's discussions are no longer relevant because they are buried in all of it. I must be an old timer, but i believe the forum format to be far superior to any social media or service like discord. That being said, i'm open to joining a smaller discord server that is focused on producing maps, projects, and also playtesting, feedback and suggestions... I haven't been able to find one so far, at least not to my liking. gehenna , that is true. Doom is a 30 year old game, but i'm not saying that's all a Doom forum should discuss. There's plenty of new and future Doom content to talk about. And again, there's the possibility of creating an alternative to the DBPs. I'm also not saying to ban off-topic either, just the politics and the childish nonsense spam of Xeep's... yeah, sorry, but if you find that guy's postings interesting or fun, i don't know what you're smoking there. You say he drives away the "ego driven purity crusaders"? Okay, well, tell me who does he bring then? I can answer that for you - no one at all, and that's not good. And in all seriousness, he drives away a lot more people than you think. Kiwifarms is entertaining, because it is the dedicated place for community drama and open discussion about anything. You know what you're getting into when you go there. Sure, it has its positive and negative sides, but even there the level of the posts is way, way higher than everything i've seen from the two main DB shitposters that you like so much... and that is even with the slurs, which shouldn't be taken too seriously, because it's just simple fun to call DW moderators what they are. As for you being on my shitlist? I don't think you are, i don't recall being annoyed or confused about your posts, and you're not spamming pointless shit, which is a plus. But then again i might be wrong, i have a hard time paying close attention to any forum that is dominated by Xeeps childish writings.
|
|
|
Post by killer5 on Aug 18, 2024 15:23:39 GMT -5
Oh yeah I get the hating discord thing. The large servers especially. I was in the hellforge server and some other ones when they were smaller. It was fine then until they became very large. Some of these servers, I don't remember the hellforge doing this but it has been years since I have been there, had these nsfw channels which caused me to insta-quit them. One of my friends warned me not to click on that channel but curiosity got the better of me. The fact that people discuss and post crap like that to discuss with one another is just.. not something I want to deal with. Based on this nsfw channel experience I make it a point to warn anyone I work with who has kids into discord about these channels. Truly never something I would want kids talking about with randoms on the internet.
If you can find a smaller server.. like 20 members max.. it is a lot of fun. You probably need to start a grass-roots server for that however. Was easy to do back in the day before politics took over. I really enjoyed playing coop/deathmatch with people in the hellforge while I was there for example. Some people in there were probably from all sorts of political backgrounds.. gay.. etc.. never even thought about that shit because it was just fun playing doom. Yeah once it grew very big I left for similar reasons. I was just there with it muted because I didn't want to read all of the messages - and because of my mapping tendencies and people I already knew I didn't need to ask openly in discord for advice.. just pm'd people on groomworld or discord instead. The slaughter scene used to not be nearly as mainstream so people who liked slaughter tended to stick together and test each other's maps.
Had one doom server which was very small, and another server which was similar but had rl friends and very old online friends prior to me joining the doom community. Those were the best ones. But like I said you all need to have met elsewhere and know you have fun with one another for that style of server to work. Because really you are just hanging with friends who would most likely also be rl friends in another life.
Started up discord again recently because I had decided to get into L4D2 again. People who play that generally use discord for coms. So can be fun for that reason too.
Sucks it is inflammatory now-a-days. I generally blame it all on the culture war that started in 2020 (maybe a few years earlier). Although for me that didn't really affect my discord servers until the whole torm master-race drama on groomworld years ago (still see this as a ww2 reference and not racism like they were saying it was).. then everything spiraled out of control for me when groomworld implemented their offsite harassment/hate speech/bigoted behavior crap.
Anyways if you can I definitely recommend a smaller server with like minded people if you can find one!
|
|
|
Post by sexybzzrak on Aug 18, 2024 16:57:47 GMT -5
TimeOfDeath please add the little "Quick Quote" popup like on doomer boards. It's hard to participate in threads without it.
|
|
|
Post by sexybzzrak on Aug 18, 2024 17:06:49 GMT -5
|
|
|
Post by sexybzzrak on Aug 18, 2024 17:10:22 GMT -5
pitch-a-sue so are you Small Cock (Portuguese: pintolinho) or someone else?
|
|
|
Post by phalluscat on Aug 18, 2024 20:55:39 GMT -5
pitch-a-sue so are you Small Cock (Portuguese: pintolinho) or someone else? You couldn't tell?
|
|