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Post by killer5 on Jul 14, 2024 10:54:06 GMT -5
I know. If I had to host that then I wouldn't allow it on my site.
Anyways on with the day.
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Post by gehenna on Jul 14, 2024 12:48:05 GMT -5
school doom II is still there l0l
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Post by Bob Page on Jul 14, 2024 14:34:36 GMT -5
killer5, I don't think anyone is claiming that everyone should play this wad. I didn't and probably won't myself. The argument is that banning it purely for its affilitation is redundant since the wad itself has no direct link to anything illegal or awful, it was merely created by a person who has done something awful. Choosing to play it or not should be something left to the discretion of the individual. Precisely. The onus to avoid the wad and the choice not to play it is on the individual. You'd have to consciously go searching for this wad to actually play it, so it's existence on the /idgames archive would not be tantamount to an ad on Facebook that constantly hounds you and reminds you of Eric Harris.
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Post by TimeOfDeath on Jul 14, 2024 21:27:16 GMT -5
I can't think of any specific examples right now, but I know there's definitely some stuff I would explicitly avoid playing purely based on the author's actions. What Eric Harris did was definitely extreme, and I don't really have an answer as to why I don't mind playing uaclabs. Maybe it's because I remember watching the Columbine story on tv after school the day that it happened, so it's kind of part of my childhood.
About /idgames, I wonder if uaclabs had already been uploaded there and then removed after Columbine happened, since the wad's timestamp is from 1996? I don't know if voting and comments were available on /idgames back then, but I can imagine that might pose a problem for a wad with such a high profile author.
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Post by Attila on Jul 16, 2024 14:16:53 GMT -5
Imagine if these guys didn't go on murder/suicide spree and lived to the present day to see all the awesome maps that were created for Doom, advanced engines, and TCs. Modern tech is awesome even if society is not. They robbed themselves of quite a future.
I played this wad long time ago and the quality is of course lackluster, sprite modifications and sounds are garbage, the kind of the retard trying to feel better by mocking other retards would like. But there is something about use of iwad tropes, I actually like the DnD heritage in Doom, platforms that go up and down, all that.
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